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Anita M. George
Executive Vice-President and Deputy Head, CDPQ Global                                                                    
INTERVIEW • 5 min read
Anita George needs no introduction. A luminary and trail-blazer in every which way, she is a master in all she undertakes. With her signature calm smile, quiet air of authority and humility, she is a rare leader who actively creates and nurtures more leaders than followers. It is a privilege to have her talk to us.
Q1. Global pension funds have been the backbone investors across asset classes and across markets. Can you please decode for our readers how global pensions work and what CDPQ’s approach is to managing funds for pension plans.
A: Global pension funds need to ensure that they manage their investments prudently to generate the benefits intended to cover the future needs of their pensioners. While traditionally, pension funds have relied on fixed income and public equity to fulfill this need, their long-term profile has driven them to diversify their portfolios in other asset classes.
If we look back at the evolution of the Canadian Pension system, we were similar to the Indian Pension funds. We invested only in our home market and mostly in liquid markets with external managers. This approach has evolved and now it is considered standard practice for institutional investors to have a significant share of their funds directly invested in less-liquid assets – such as private equity, infrastructure and real estate – for the purposes of diversification.
In India, the domestic pension funds have traditionally invested in government paper and highly rated corporate debt, rather than direct investments in private equity or infrastructure. There has been quite a lot of discussion on whether the Indian Pension funds can follow the example of Canada or Australia to channel a portion of their long-term funds into direct investments in infrastructure for instance.
As a long-term investor that manages funds for public pension plans, we at CDPQ are always cognizant of whose money we are investing. We believe that the best way to meet the needs of our 41 clients is to invest in projects over a long-term horizon alongside like-minded partners and management teams, and we’re committed to investing in the growth of our portfolio companies. Simply put, our approach is to build businesses that generate consistent returns. The risk-adjusted return over the life of an investment is what we focus on.
Q2. How does CDPQ approach allocation of funds?
A: CDPQ’s approach is to invest in real-economy assets that can sustain the needs of the increasing population over the long term. We have identified several priority countries due to their potential, of which India is a very important one due to its thriving entrepreneurship and rapid urbanization. We opened an office in Delhi in 2016, and have grown our presence in India since then with investments across asset classes, from public to private markets.
Globally, we look across our asset classes and identify sectors where we wish to be present. In India, we are particularly active in financial services, logistics and renewable energy, and we have an appetite for technology-enabled consumer services and healthcare. A good example is what we’re doing through our partnership with leading solar power developer and operator, Azure Power. As one of the largest players in the rapidly growing renewable energy industry in India, Azure Power is well-positioned to take advantage of this growth and has a target to increase its portfolio capacity to ~350 GW by 2030. Since our initial investment in 2016, we have supported our partner by reinvesting at various stages of its growth over time. Our strategic partnership with Azure Power is well aligned with our own investment strategy to address climate change, which includes a 25% decrease in the carbon intensity of our global portfolio between 2017 and 2025. We also invest in companies with a more traditional profile, and who are in the process of a digital transformation or take steps towards cleaner energy sources.
Q3. You have had a unique vantage of being a global investor but based in India. From your perspective, what are the positives and negatives of investing in India, especially as compared to other emerging markets?
A: Over five years ago, CDPQ embarked on a more sustained international expansion. We had been studying India for a couple of years when we opened our office in Delhi in 2016, and since then, we have made major investments in India in key sectors with high quality partners.
We are still navigating a lot of uncertainty worldwide, as no one can predict the full impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. In that regard, India is also still struggling with the impact of the virus on businesses as well as on people’s lives. Factors such as India’s favorable demographics, entrepreneurial drive, quality of management, digitization, and institutional and regulatory stability continue to make India a priority investment destination for CDPQ. Several of the policies that have been put in place, such as the Bankruptcy Code, GST, RERA, will benefit the country. Faster execution and stability in regulations and in the interpretation of these policies would be key.
Globally, CDPQ seeks reliable returns over a long investment horizon, and as such, we do not let short-term market fluctuations and speculation impact our investment decisions. In the midst of the COVID-19 crisis, we took several concrete actions, including an in-depth review of all portfolio assets, to identify sectors of the future and potential risks, in order to better define the post-COVID 19 strategy.
Q4: You have been a torchbearer throughout your career, breaking numerous glass ceilings and being the first (woman) to do many things. One of the things you have said is that you needed to work three times as hard. Are there any experiences, memories or incidents that you would like to share with us?
A: My first paying job was as a teaching fellow in Economics and Statistics during my graduate school days. It struck me how female students were different from male students in terms of their confidence to tackle a problem. I would encourage my female students to build confidence by working hard and mastering the subject. This is a philosophy I have followed myself. No one can take away what you know. Make sure you know your skill well and that will give you the confidence to execute and lead. Another important attribute for success is curiosity – about areas you know nothing about and people who may be very different from you. For example, technology. I read a lot to keep myself updated on trends in a world that is being disrupted every day across every sector. Some of my greatest insights have come from younger colleagues in my team and my young adult son and daughter. Connecting to people is a great source of knowledge and understanding.
A third area that requires working much harder than average is executing something which has never been done before. I thrive on thinking through unconventional solutions and working with people to implement such ideas. New ideas are scary, they challenge the status quo and tend to change the way business is done. To bring about such change one has to work harder to make sure that all the details have been thought through and that the net impact is positive. While the perceived risks are higher, the returns are also higher.
Q5. Both you as an individual and CDPQ as an organization are active supporters of diversity and involved in many initiatives to further this cause. What are the key messages that you would like to share with leaders and organizations on the importance of D&I?
A: Diversity and inclusion are a priority for CDPQ, and we believe diversity is expressed through a wide variety of points of view. Our offices are diverse by design, not by coincidence. I am a firm believer that diversity and enabling inclusion delivers more informed discussions and, consequently, better decisions.
Just as an example, we recently obtained the EDGE Certification, a leading global assessment in gender equality. We’ve also championed diversity and taken actions to positively influence the industry, our partners and the companies in our portfolio through different international associations and alliances. Our commitment translates to all levels of our organization. Much progress has been made in recent years, but we know there is still a lot of work to do. And we are looking forward to doing our part.
In my own team, I have been proud to promote greater diversity, both in terms of gender and culture. We have almost a 50:50 gender diversity and a good representation of people from all over the world. The key is to search for the best talent and not the same type of talent. A diverse team contributes with ideas and approaches that are innovative and successfully execute them due to a shared passion and commitment, which is found in a close-knit team where each contribution is valued.
When I am told that we do not have a pipeline of diverse candidates in the industry, I think it may be a cop-out. We have to create the pipeline, we have to nurture talent, we have to go the extra mile and work harder to find diverse candidates. Once you manage to attract diversity, it is also very important to support and foster it through inclusion. It is very easy in a dominant culture to get sidelined or to feel different. It is leadership’s role to make sure that we set the tone from the top by valuing and growing diverse talent. What I have learned is that the whole team rises to a higher bar of thinking, creativity and execution.
Q6. What is your life motto / favorite quote?
A: A: “Put yourself in the other person’s shoes.” This philosophy and approach have helped in day-to-day dealings at work and at home. It goes a long way in being able to motivate people, because the most basic human need is to feel understood. It helps in being able to solve problems that at first seem impossible. It helps one become an excellent negotiator. It is essential for building long-lasting relationships both professionally and personally. And it helps in self-development. You are challenging yourself to step out of your own comfort zone and step into that of another person.
Q7. Secret to maintaining your Zen-like calm?
A: You may get a different story if you speak to my husband and kids about the “Zen-like calm,” since they have witnessed many “un-Zen” like moments, especially while playing basketball and badminton with them! To quote my husband, who knows me best, it’s having “a clean conscience” and “knowing oneself well and accepting yourself for who you are.” A few years ago, I started meditating and doing yoga. I am wonderstruck by how, so many thousands of years ago in India, our ancestors developed and evolved a science of self-awareness and mindfulness that is now globally accepted and practiced. I would recommend everyone try it, not once, but a minimum of ten times, since it takes that many times at least for our bodies and minds to experience the true power of yoga and meditation.
Q8. What are your favorite news sources?
A: I like the pink papers and papers that are not too partisan. I have to sheepishly admit to liking fashion and film magazines. Another favorite of mine, beyond news sources, are podcasts on different topics. I am a bit of an addict of tech podcasts.
Q9. Recent watches or favorite movies / TV series?
A: I am more of a book junkie than a TV junkie. I am reading one currently, called “A Woman of No Importance” by Sonia Purnell and love it so far. I just finished reading the “Ride of a Lifetime” by Robert Iger, which is fascinating both on lessons about leadership and on adapting to technological disruptions as an incumbent.
Q10. Hobbies outside work?
A: Reading and sleeping (they usually go together!) and in my waking hours hanging out with my family.
Q11. Favorite places to eat?
A: Starting with my daughter’s cooking – she is the equivalent of a 3-Michelin-star chef, according to my completely unbiased taste buds. More than restaurants, I love cafes with books that also serve food. I recommend Café Turtle in Delhi and Kramer Books in Washington, DC.